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NYU Visit

Went to NYU for a class visit and a “coffee break” yesterday with my fiancee. I went last year, but I wasn’t taking the MBA thing as seriously, so I didn’t remember as much detail, or who I spoke with. I wanted this to be the crux of my Essay #2 (What is you experience with the Stern community) and I was very pleased with how things went.

Class Visit:

As I stated in my earlier post, I was scheduled to attend an International Economics class taught by the one and only, Nouriel Roubini.   We arrived about 15 minutes early and were asked to wait in the admissions office. We waited, and waited, and waited some more until it was apparent that no one was coming to get us. A woman from admissions kindly took us down to the class before it started. When we got there it was a fairly large lecture style classroom and the students were all milling around talking with one another. The admissions woman asked a student where we should sit and they decided 3rd row was a good spot. While shuffling into our row, one of the students told us that Nouriel was not going to be teaching the class today, as he had a prior speaking engagement. Complete and utter dissappointment….As we sat waiting for the stand-in professor I chatted with a few of the other applicants in the class with us. When the stand-in got there I was pretty impressed. Instead of Roubini we had the head of LatAm Fixed Income research for JP Morgan, not exactly chopped liver. This got me thinking about how unique NYU and Columbia are because if a professor cancels, they can just call upon the many financial (or other types) professionals that make NYC their home. It truly is amazing the access that these two schools have to the top minds in their fields. You can bet that this made it into my essay #2!


Coffee Break:

The class was interesting and informative, but the coffee break was a chance for me to speak with current 1st years and to get a lay of the land from those who live it everyday. Danielle and I got to speaking with one of the 1st years who is looking to go into a managerial rotation program. She was in IT consulting before Stern and came here because she loved the students. I was very impressed with how she handled the questions and spoke about the school. To demonstrate how helpful the students are she told a story about how two students were vying for the same position at a boutique firm. Upon learning that only 1 spot was available, the students asked if they could split the 12 week internship into a 6 week internship for each. I was very impressed by the story and while I know it doesn’t happen everyday, it happening once is pretty impressive to me.

The conversation took a stark turn as we started talking about the social aspects of B-School. I am well aware that drinking is a big part of the B-School experience because there is a lot of stress and what better way to take your mind off it than to kill the very brain cells that are thinking about it, but I think our students was taking it a bit too far. She started talking about how drinking was a big part of getting your MBA and how if you don’t drink you should start now because you are going to have to build up a tolerance. I was fine with that…good natured joke to lighten the mood, but then she continued…She said and I quote, “Listen I am at school from 9am-11pm Mon – Thurs. because I get blackout drunk every other day!” – Ladies and gentleman the future leaders of America. I am not a prude, I obviously drink, but I thought it was a tad excessive and slightly inappropriate for an applicant discussion. It got worse (at least for me) as someone turned the discussion to dating while at Stern. The student said that everyone dates, and you have to be careful because the guys will not tell you if they are married. She said that MBA stands for: Married But Available. As the words leave her mouth, my fiancee shoots me a stare that could have killed a lesser man. Needless to say she is slightly less than excited about the prospect of me going to Stern and she is now openly rooting for Tuck.

We left after the coffee break and returned back to Jersey. I finished off Essay #2 and sent it over to my Stern specialist.

Overall impression was a great class visit with a so/so student visit. I will say that I was more impressed with the Tuck students than the Stern ones. Not just because of the one student we spoke with, but just a general consensus. All-in-all Stern is still my top choice because of the convience it provides me and it also allows Danielle to keep working while I am at school. (Big Plus!)


11 Responses

  1. Dude, I heard the same “Married But Available” thing from a Wharton student!
    He also mentioned about SSS, which are something like Sleep, Study, Socialize. But you can’t do the 3 of them. You should pick only two!
    And then a married Kellogg graduate (international) told me that MBA also stands for “Making Babies in America”!



    • MBAJourney12,

      I hadn’t heard the last two, but SSS seems slightly daunting….thanks for the comment and for reading. Good luck on the Wharton invite!


    • Hey,

      Just realized I didn’t have you on the Blogroll, sorry about that. It has been rectified! I read yours quite a bit, simply overlooked it. Best of luck again!


      • Thanks Steve!!
        Yes, the SSS is daunting indeed! However, I have also talked to Tuck alumni, and there is another atmosphere at Tuck. Much more sports and more “healthy” activities.

        Awesome blog BTW! Keep writing!!


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  5. Hi Steve,

    I’m a current MBA1 at NYU Stern and I was actually answering questions at that coffee chat that you attended though I don’t think we actually met. I don’t know the student that you are referring to but I just want to let you know that her comments definitely do not reflect my experience at Stern.

    Of course, drinking is a part of the MBA experience, just as it’s a part of business and life in general. However, the student that you spoke to definitely overstated it. While there are certainly big drinkers in my class, there are many who, like me, are social drinkers. Furthermore, from what I have seen, students who drink frequently to the point of being sick/blacking out are in the minority and frankly, should probably re-evaluate their priorities in life. Business school is far too valuable of an experience to waste being passed out drunk, IMO.

    I also happen to be married, and here again I think that the MBA1 you were talking with spoke far too broadly. While I will readily acknowledge that the experience for a woman getting her MBA is likely different than for your average guy, all of the married folks that I know in the program have no problems keeping their vows. Just as with the drinking issue, one’s love life is something in your control, and thankfully, I don’t believe the culture at Stern in any way encourages this kind of bad behavior. Simply, if people are prone to acting out they’ll find a way, no matter what school they attend.

    Of course, all this is just my opinion, but I hope it helps to give you a more well-rounded view of life at Stern. Good luck with apps!


  6. Jovan,

    Thanks for reaching out and letting me know about this. i think it will put my mind (more my fiancee’s mind) at ease about the social scene. If I do get an interview, would you mind if i sent you a couple e-mails to learn a little bit more about Stern before interviewing? Hope your 1st year is going well, thanks for posting, and thanks for reading the blog!


    • Hi Steve,

      No problem. Feel free to shoot me an email if you have any other questions (jovan.hsu(at)stern.nyu.edu). Also, if your fiancee has any questions about what life is like as an MBA partner I’d be happy to forward her questions along to my wife.


  7. Hi Steve,
    I didn’t attend the info session at Stern you mentioned but spent the best 2 years of my life getting my MBA at NYU and loved it.
    As Jovan mentioned above, drinking is just one part of the social activity is it not the core of it. The great thing about being in NYC is that there are so many other things one can do (movies, theater, sport, art…you live here – you know what NYC has to offer). It is also clear that people have different priorities and interests, so you can choose what you want to do and with what friends. I was married during my time at Stern and the biggest challenge was just the time management – how much time you get to spend with your family compared to focusing on studying, job search and creating strong bonds with your classmates. It’s not easy but feasible.
    If you are interested in hearing more about my NYU MBA experience, feel free to send me an email and we can speak over the phone/email.
    Best and good luck with your application,

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